last I heard, the Amish people don't vote either. True or False?
Mennonites don't either. Aside srom those, there are religious groups worldwide who don't vote in their countries elections for leadership, Government, etc.
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News article: No potentially deciding votes among Jehovah's Witnesses
by Wild_Thing in.
sorry if this has already been posted.
it just infuriates me that voting is a desfellowshipping offense.. http://www.mlive.com/news/fljournal/index.ssf?/base/news-24/1099142701308870.xml.
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False Prophets Or Just In Need Of a Slight Adjustment?
by Englishman init's from the march 15, 1986 watchtower and is brooklyn's way of confronting the issue of whether or not they are false prophets:.
>>>>>>>>>>>14 finally, we might consider what the society has published in the past on chronology.
some opposers claim that jehovah?s witnesses are false prophets.
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Shh Blondie you ask too many questions. You are in need of a readjustment in thinking.
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Simon and others: Inspiring Words and this Forum.
by Blueblades inthese inspiring words will remind you how to make your dreams come true.. "through confidence and perseverance comes the ability to succeed!".
many of you have proven that these words have inspired you to succeed in whatever endeavors you have chosen after having come out of the watchtower.. i have read simon's and many of your post's, where - in you have shown confidence, and perseverance along with the ability to succeed in whatever endeavors you have chosen for yourselves after having come out of the watchtower.
i too, after having spent 30 years serving the watchtower, two and one half years later, after having left he watchtower, i have succeeded in passing my medical examiner's tests and am now licensed to practice in one of the many health care concerns at the young age of 60.. this shows that all of us can go on and succeed after life in the watchtower.. this forum and the many nameless persons who have posted here have been an inspiration to carry on.
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two and one half years later, after having left he Watchtower, I have succeeded in passing my medical examiner's tests and am now licensed to practice in one of the many health care concerns at the young age of 60.
That's fantastic, congratulations.
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Dr. Phil wants to talk CULTS
by ChakkaConned indr. phil is looking to talk to people who feel a family member may be involved with a cult.
check it out if you'd like on his website (drphil.com) under "be on the show".
chakka
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I'm sure there are some who would make good candidates like the world's largest apostate (my sarcastic label - no offense intended). Randy how about it?
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False Prophets Or Just In Need Of a Slight Adjustment?
by Englishman init's from the march 15, 1986 watchtower and is brooklyn's way of confronting the issue of whether or not they are false prophets:.
>>>>>>>>>>>14 finally, we might consider what the society has published in the past on chronology.
some opposers claim that jehovah?s witnesses are false prophets.
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The evidence is clear that Jehovah has used and is continuing to use his one organization, with "the faithful and discreet slave" taking the lead
LOL the evidence is massively opposite to their statement.
When I read the type of s**t contained in the WT like you posted Englishman, I just can't understand why ther isn't a massive class action suit against the WT. They have apparently made so many false promises in order to suck money from unsuspecting people. I can't help but think If this were any other scam they would have been jailed by now. I wouldn't be surprised of some very clever ex JWs have already launched lawsuits only to have them payed off quietly in out of court settlements.
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News article: No potentially deciding votes among Jehovah's Witnesses
by Wild_Thing in.
sorry if this has already been posted.
it just infuriates me that voting is a desfellowshipping offense.. http://www.mlive.com/news/fljournal/index.ssf?/base/news-24/1099142701308870.xml.
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Hillbilly don't discount that the WT also uses the media to put out propoganda.
Consider this:
Many cases involving scandle and the WT are in the court system NOW particularly surrounding the issue of child sexual abuse.
The WT is conducting one of it's largest pamphlet campaigns ever which is designed to imply they detest the child sexual abuse cover up scandals in the Catholic church (hence they would never resort to such a thing).
Some are saying that there is an increased focus of attention on apostates in the Kingdom Halls which implies that there will be increased media and they don't want the average members paying attention.
I think they are stepping up the PR and propoganda and you will see the WT increasing it's use of the worldly media to pump out messages like "We cooperate with authorities" in order to affect opinions of those who might be reading the morning news before they go into court to render decisions on these cases.
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News article: No potentially deciding votes among Jehovah's Witnesses
by Wild_Thing in.
sorry if this has already been posted.
it just infuriates me that voting is a desfellowshipping offense.. http://www.mlive.com/news/fljournal/index.ssf?/base/news-24/1099142701308870.xml.
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"Witnesses respect and cooperate with authorities, so it's not a matter of being irritated or affected by what's going on in politics," Bryant said.
I guess this brother doesn't know about: The Tax Court ruling in France; JW domestic abuse problems; or "Theocratic War Strategy" of lying to authorities and in court. Unless Bryant was using his Theocratic War Strategy when giving that news media interview? That must be it!
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Off to celebrate Satan's holiday - But I have one question.
by Nancy Drake inhappy halloween everyone!.
i can't wait to take my son trick-or-treating today, but this is my first year dressing up, too.. my question is, can i bring a bucket to collect candy, too?
i mean, i am dressing up and all so does that entitle me to bring a bucket?
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lol Too bad you don't live near me because I would give you candy. Some people you will encounter will probably give you an odd look and some may comment "Aren't you a bit too old for candy". I say this because your profile says your 25.
HOWEVER, it depends on your costume. If it can make you look like a teen you'll be okay. One other thing is you could just be honest and say that "The fun of Halloween was deprived from your childhood". Most people when they hear that will heap kindness on you and give you extra candy even.
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LISTEN TO ORAL ARGUMENTS IN JW ABUSE CASE! (Berry Girls, NH Supreme Court)
by loveis inif you have an mp3 player (windows media player should be fine), just click on this link to hear them hash it out!
http://www.courts.state.nh.us/supreme/recordings/2004/2003-0779.mp3.
(if you need to catch up on the history of the berry girls case, this ongoing new hampshire supreme court appeal was discussed in more detail in these recent threads:) .
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I finally had a chance to listen to this. My first download the quality was terrible so I had to try it a second time.
It's interesting because even though the arguments are strictly legal and of a technical nature, it was still hard to listen to knowing the very sad underlying issue.
I don't have much to add here except to say that both sides put thier best foot forward. One main point of the legal case is that the WT is claiming the original information was shared with an elder in the form of a confession and they use this as a defense based on confidentially etc. I find this ridiculous because I have heard time and again of when a JW shares ANY sensitive information with ANY leader in the JWs, be it an Elder or Circuit Overseer or District Overseer, this information is usually put in a file on that JW and ultimately passed on to WT in Brooklyn. The whole basis of the confidential confessional is that it is between the Church goer, the Priest (in this case elder) and God. Having individual files which go on to the WT headquarters (for other JWs to see) is not in any way shape or form a confidential confession. If the infromation can be shared amongst the JW leadership, why can't it be shared with Police or Youth Protection. My thoughts on this is that one of the Appeal Court judges (the one who commented on this) knew better on this confession issue. Beyond that the victim's lawyer still made a good case for protecting children regardless of any confidentiality issue.
It appears that the main issue to be dealt with is the issue of negligence. Maybe this (and other cases) has something to do with thier massive pamphlet campaign addressing child molestation - trying to make the WT look good, but as always, after the fact when they need to get some good PR for court rulings. It seems they are never interested in the truth in court; only winning at whatever cost regardless of however many false impressions have be made or how many lies need to be told and they have so many eager followers ready to assist in the masquerade..
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Comments You Will Not Hear At the 10-31-04 WT Study (Abbreviated)
by blondie incomments you will not hear at the october 31, 2004 wt study (september 15, 2004 issue) abbreviated
review comments
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Happy Guy :)
I was talking with a JW some time back about why they were able to go to Lord of the Rings but not Harry Potter. Their reasoning: in LOTR the bad guys used magic only, but in HP the good guys used magic which made it seem good.
But didn't Gandalf (who was portrayed as good) use magic?
The WTS was so nonspecific about "worldly thinking" and "faulty reasoning" that I can see the average JW demonizing anything they don?t understand and that will be a great deal since they are not very good students of the Bible.
This is a very good point Blondie. I believe they deliberately keep things vague. It serves multiple purpose: Allows them to change views over time to continue to attract new converts without specifically contradicting there 0previous views on "wordly thinking". Also by keeping it vague the average JW is constantly uneasy or walking on eggshells (the classic Controller/Dominator - Victim setup).